^^ Yes. Yes I do. Might be hard for those who have been spoon fed and indoctrinated in the mythological sikhi of the west which has more in common with Christianity and Dragonball Z then the usli sikhi of yesterday which existed long before internet message boards.
okay seriously.. im confused.. can someone explain… is this a part of sikhi that i was just unaware of orr.. i dont knw.. i dont wanna say ne thing but im confused
Collecting the blood of beheaded goats has never been a part of Sikhi.
Guru Hargobind Sahib’s hukumnamas said “maas machhee de nayray nahi aavanaa” or don’t even go near meat or fish. It’s pretty clear who’s been indoctrinated and brainwashed here (looking at you Atel….)
Check Hazoor sahib maryada; also, not every Nihang eats meat…where do you think singhs got leather kamarkassay and farriz from? and not to talk about tabla and shoes.. and singh.. Mass also means parai istri (other women).. i dont wanna get into this controversy.. but yeah..if you want beef..call Hazoor sahib..
The Pujaris at Hazur Sahib also put tikkas and tilaks on their heads. Is that also puratan?
As for your Panth Parkash Quote: This work was written at the request of the British to explain Sikh history. It’s not some Puratan Granth. At any rate, what’s more convincing, Guru Hargobind Sahib’s clear hukumnama or a quote by Rattan Singh Bhangu?
Every single hukumnama given by Guru Hargobind Sahib (can be found in Dr. Ganda Singh’s book) has the same introduction. Guru Guru japo, remain in sangat and finally the line about not going near meat or fish. It’s in every single hukumnama.
Finally, the Pujaris at Hazur Sahib, for your information, call themselves Pujaris. That’s their official title. Secondly, they all have tilaks on their foreheads and they put tilaks on all visitors in the morning. That’s the sad part about pseudo-brainwashed-Nihangs like yourself; you don’t have a clue about the reality but just parrot what you’ve been taught. Do some research. Actually go and VISIT Hazur Sahib and see what’s going on.
The singh who made the video is a good friend of mine, and i can attest that the guys done his research and did go to hazoor sahib (besides this video isnt from canada or something its right from there!)
anyways Im a vegetarian myself, and really i cant beef with meat eating sikhs. I have submitted to the fact that only halalo is a kurihit, but eating maas isnt good for ones jeevan as well. however its not a kurehit, and if you are gonna eat maas it should only be chatka. these days people abuse the chatka exception, but thats a different story.
as for the ‘pseudo-brainwashed-Nihangs’ singh they also do aarti of shasters at hajoor sahib as well. but what you have denoted as a negitive thing is actually opposite. fine theyre doing what hindus do to their deities but lets not forget hindus bow their heads to the moortis too, and sikhs bow to shasters, should we stop? we jump around doing abrobatic flips and twirls in doing namaskar pentra before we touch shasters. we ask for agya from a singh guarding them, in fact shasters are given the same satkar as Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as well. doing aarti is nothing more then giving respect. and hajoor sahib is in the south so we gotta accept the fact its gonna entrench some of the local culture in its daily maryada, they also tie (rakhris) around shasters (rakhri where bros protect the tier whom is the sister, in this case shasters protecting the bearer of arms) if doing aarti or what not is a way of showing pyaar down there then who are you and i to intervene
All I know is that I was listening to Suraj Prakash Granth Katha by Giani Takhur Singh and he was straight up about how meat is NOT a part of Sikhi. He’s done Sangat of some pretty uchay mahapursh so I’m pretty sure I’m going to take his advice and not every Tom,Dick and Harry on the internet.
Ranjit Sion, your post is dangerous because you’re giving people an excuse to eat meat. We all know that half of these lil’ cyber-singhs out there ain’t gonna do no JHATKA before sitting down to a meal. Half of these retards read your post and went straight to KFC for a bucket of wings. Besides, you yourself attest to the fact that eating meat is not good for your jeevan. I’ve heard this point reiterated by many Gurmukhs, Sants as well. So why even bother condoning meat when we all know it does nothing for us, and it is avoidable. If it’s nourishment we require then a vegetarian diet is by far the healthiest diet we can have. Meat is nothing but JEEB DA RASS.
Atel, cutting a goat’s head off…akaal hi akaal?…you’re a retard hi retard. Read Asa Di Vaar, listen to Katha of Suraj Prakash Granth where Guru Nanak Dev Ji was going to have a junjoo put on him. Listen to the part about the goat being sacrificed. Don’t just look at a goat being beheaded and say akaal hi akaal! And don’t lecture people about USLI sikhi. I’d rather be raped by a bear with AIDS then listen to you talk about USLI sikhi.
Jao sabẖ meh ėk kẖuḏāė kahaṯ hao ṯao kio murgī mārai. ||1||
You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens? ||1||
Siri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaaj (Ang 1350)
Eating meat effects a persons kamai
which means they’re further away from Vaheguru
which defeats the purpose of them being alive
munumukh vishurree dhoor mehul n paaeae bal gee bal raam jeeo
The self-willed manmukh is separated, far away from God; she does not obtain the Mansion of His Presence, and she burns.
yes ‘The Rock’ your right, i guess my post can condone meat eating WHICH I DONT FOR YOU KFC LOVING MOTHER****. but yo im just going along with what Sant baba Gurbachan Singh Ji wrote in his unedited version of pivitar jeevan. where it seems like Sant ji came to a point where the argument of maas was retarded to him, and think about it bro, who ever will eat it is gonna and ruin their own jeevan. but sant ji wrote yo eating meat is nad for you stay away from it you dont need it, but if your gonna eat maas make sure its jhatka and i wont talk smack, but if you dont and keep ingesting maas then your effed up.
atleast thats my summary of it, i guess that was his way of not going against hazoor sahib maryada, and dispite all the weird stuff that comes outta hazoor sahib, i still gotta give them upmost respect cuz theyve been put on that pedestal.
firstly, ranjit sio is a friend of mine. secondly, this video was taken by me. thirdly, this is not from hazur sahib, but rather at Baba Bakala, on the mela of Rakharpunia. It was around Auguest 28th when I was in India. These Nihung Singhs that did the langar seva were from Rakha, a pind just outside Ludhiana, under the leadership of Baba Joginder Singh Ji. The mahaprashaad was served the sangat, and we enjoyed it with the whole sangat, be it Nihung or non Nihung Sikh brothers.
I’m in agreement with Ranjit Sion. I will forever say that Jhatka is not part of Sikhi and I don’t think that meat should be served as langar. That being said, if Nihangs want to practice that, then so be it.
As far as the whole “thay Jadoo Akkaldan Chitran day bajda..fer darday aa” comment. Come on Singh. Be real. I’ve talked to Nihangs and they’re not how you describe. It’s possible to disagree with someone and still have love. Don’t forget, you’re an internet warrior yourself. Don’t be makin comments like you did and accuse other people of being “internet warriors”. It’s very hypocritical…and a bit funny..
dont u stupid people this internet retard shinda singh (who is the furthest thing from being a man, yet thinks he has some duty to inform you of whats going on with youtube videos), is actually making money of you fools with adverts…and is the reason why he posts outrageous stuff…
shinda is nobody, and will always be a nobody, but gets his kicks off his webiste…
Amritsar, October 5
In a bizarre incident, agitated activists of the Guru Granth Sahib Satkar Committee picked up two brothers from the shop of famous publishers Jeewan Singh Chattar Singh and Sons, near Golden Temple, and blackened their faces in full public view. They later dragged them to a room of the Akal Takht secretariat here this evening.
With Maharaji’s kirpa Dasan Dass got a Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib ji’s (Guru here used for Dasam Patshah and his Bani for respect..so dont start a new controversy) Saroop published by Chattar Singh and Jeevan Singh; it has sooooo many mistakes.. We should take notice of that too
random nihang, this man has a blog, and makes money from advertisers. look to your right, and to the bottom. the more hits he has on his website, the more money he makes.
the man claims to be a taksali, and a sikh, and person who does commentary on sikhi. yet, he will post a video like that on this blog, knowing it will incite convtroversy and spark debate – and bring more people back to post comments or see the video. the whole time putting a little bit more pocket change then he had before.
the man has no creditbility, and no respect in the community other then with little kids who read this blog. the guy is 23 years old, and this blog is the only thing giving him a name, wheras otherwise he is a nobody and will always be a nobody.
he should do pandyan di seva or clean joray, or do paath…
Singh, Shinda is one of my good mates. I know him personally. If you dont like his site why do you visit it,and put more change in Shinda’s pocket. Also, I asked Shinda to put this vid. Please quit doing nindeya.. actually..nevermind. do whatever you like..
Meats not good for you.
Whether you choose to eat it is up to you.
Why do you care so much I ask?
I think this is funny and the video was pretty cool.
As far as the whole Shinda’s making money off us posting and what not, more power to him. The world is a business, so deal with it lol.
And your all pretty funny. I’m just happy something has been posted up on the site after such a long boring wait, the video was refreshing.
When your bored you can always go through the stupid list of things and find out what’s going on youtube or you wait patiently and see what shinda’s got for us to watch lol.
how i just came across this whole issue i don’t know, but i’m bored sooo hmmmm
firstly i think anyone that is havin a fit over this video or even bummin it are jus all fukin crazy..
secondly, the reason y? coz u all hav contradicted sikhi in some way anyway, n thats jus on ur posts
on a mega deep level gurbani explains that this jagat is jus a tamasha, its all a drama.. and who is the actor i ask?? who do u think punk, god, the only one that exists… god is inside all of us and is playin his drama as he wishes it to be played out..
i’m not at all sayin we can all do wat eva the fuk we like, as ‘gods doin it’- we all know its abit more complicated than that..
but the above was just to make u all see the bigger picture, y all the arguin, hot heads, ego engrossed motha fukas up in here gettin all agitated ova a video.. nigga go get proactive if u think sumet is wrong instead of hidin behind a pc screen..
as for me,who givs a fuk wat i think, im insignificant and wont even bother to try and persuade u onto my level of thinkin, coz i dont giv a shit about u..homies im jus bored!
and as for all yall gettin all personal about shinda? that was jus fukin ridiculous, ur no betta than who u accuse of bein incompassionate,whers the love now mothafuka??
all keep contradictin uselfs..say what u want to me biatch, i neva claimed to b a gursikh, im lowa than all yall motherfuks so aint nothin gna hurt my pride..like i sed im js bored!
anyways thers a line in gurbani wher guru nanak dev ji says those that turn ther nose to those that eat meat devour men at night.. im not sayin maharaj condoned eatin meat..rather sayin all yall ppl, like above,who even get into heated debates about topics such as meat r all fools… cos no1 perfect and we all hav our demons, the second we forget god and get caught up in controversy we submit to our ego.. and if any of yall are amritdhari that ‘ego’ was meant to have been sacrified along with your sees(head)
im not sayin its easy, but jus remem ppl gonna do wat they wana do regardless of which mothafuka tells them not to… they myt pretend they changed infront of ur face, but no doubt, they be gettin up to the same antics behind closed doors or wateva
anyway its past 4am, bes do my nitnem and redeem myself of my foul language and evry otha sin i attend to durin the day.. cos its as easy as that eh…
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Straight up…what the hell was that? You call that Sikhi?
^^ Yes. Yes I do. Might be hard for those who have been spoon fed and indoctrinated in the mythological sikhi of the west which has more in common with Christianity and Dragonball Z then the usli sikhi of yesterday which existed long before internet message boards.
Akaal Hi Akaaaaaaal
okay seriously.. im confused.. can someone explain… is this a part of sikhi that i was just unaware of orr.. i dont knw.. i dont wanna say ne thing but im confused
No, that’s not some part of Sikhi you’re missing.
Collecting the blood of beheaded goats has never been a part of Sikhi.
Guru Hargobind Sahib’s hukumnamas said “maas machhee de nayray nahi aavanaa” or don’t even go near meat or fish. It’s pretty clear who’s been indoctrinated and brainwashed here (looking at you Atel….)
check this site out for truth about meat including what the Guru’s said about meat eating.
http://www.info-sikh.com/PageM1.html
Check Hazoor sahib maryada; also, not every Nihang eats meat…where do you think singhs got leather kamarkassay and farriz from? and not to talk about tabla and shoes.. and singh.. Mass also means parai istri (other women).. i dont wanna get into this controversy.. but yeah..if you want beef..call Hazoor sahib..
and plz… read Panth Parkash by Rattan Singh Bhangu (Grandson of Bhai Mehtab Singh, the Singh who chopped off Massa’s head)..
KAR CHATKA BAKRE KO KHEYO, MURDA KUTHA NERR NA JEYO”
‘practice the method of chatka, and eat goats. But do not go near what is dead already or halaal
The Pujaris at Hazur Sahib also put tikkas and tilaks on their heads. Is that also puratan?
As for your Panth Parkash Quote: This work was written at the request of the British to explain Sikh history. It’s not some Puratan Granth. At any rate, what’s more convincing, Guru Hargobind Sahib’s clear hukumnama or a quote by Rattan Singh Bhangu?
Where was this hukamnama issued? and dont call em pujaris.. they put tilaks on Shashtars not forehead…
Random Nihang,
Every single hukumnama given by Guru Hargobind Sahib (can be found in Dr. Ganda Singh’s book) has the same introduction. Guru Guru japo, remain in sangat and finally the line about not going near meat or fish. It’s in every single hukumnama.
Finally, the Pujaris at Hazur Sahib, for your information, call themselves Pujaris. That’s their official title. Secondly, they all have tilaks on their foreheads and they put tilaks on all visitors in the morning. That’s the sad part about pseudo-brainwashed-Nihangs like yourself; you don’t have a clue about the reality but just parrot what you’ve been taught. Do some research. Actually go and VISIT Hazur Sahib and see what’s going on.
The singh who made the video is a good friend of mine, and i can attest that the guys done his research and did go to hazoor sahib (besides this video isnt from canada or something its right from there!)
anyways Im a vegetarian myself, and really i cant beef with meat eating sikhs. I have submitted to the fact that only halalo is a kurihit, but eating maas isnt good for ones jeevan as well. however its not a kurehit, and if you are gonna eat maas it should only be chatka. these days people abuse the chatka exception, but thats a different story.
as for the ‘pseudo-brainwashed-Nihangs’ singh they also do aarti of shasters at hajoor sahib as well. but what you have denoted as a negitive thing is actually opposite. fine theyre doing what hindus do to their deities but lets not forget hindus bow their heads to the moortis too, and sikhs bow to shasters, should we stop? we jump around doing abrobatic flips and twirls in doing namaskar pentra before we touch shasters. we ask for agya from a singh guarding them, in fact shasters are given the same satkar as Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as well. doing aarti is nothing more then giving respect. and hajoor sahib is in the south so we gotta accept the fact its gonna entrench some of the local culture in its daily maryada, they also tie (rakhris) around shasters (rakhri where bros protect the tier whom is the sister, in this case shasters protecting the bearer of arms) if doing aarti or what not is a way of showing pyaar down there then who are you and i to intervene
All I know is that I was listening to Suraj Prakash Granth Katha by Giani Takhur Singh and he was straight up about how meat is NOT a part of Sikhi. He’s done Sangat of some pretty uchay mahapursh so I’m pretty sure I’m going to take his advice and not every Tom,Dick and Harry on the internet.
Ranjit Sion, your post is dangerous because you’re giving people an excuse to eat meat. We all know that half of these lil’ cyber-singhs out there ain’t gonna do no JHATKA before sitting down to a meal. Half of these retards read your post and went straight to KFC for a bucket of wings. Besides, you yourself attest to the fact that eating meat is not good for your jeevan. I’ve heard this point reiterated by many Gurmukhs, Sants as well. So why even bother condoning meat when we all know it does nothing for us, and it is avoidable. If it’s nourishment we require then a vegetarian diet is by far the healthiest diet we can have. Meat is nothing but JEEB DA RASS.
Atel, cutting a goat’s head off…akaal hi akaal?…you’re a retard hi retard. Read Asa Di Vaar, listen to Katha of Suraj Prakash Granth where Guru Nanak Dev Ji was going to have a junjoo put on him. Listen to the part about the goat being sacrificed. Don’t just look at a goat being beheaded and say akaal hi akaal! And don’t lecture people about USLI sikhi. I’d rather be raped by a bear with AIDS then listen to you talk about USLI sikhi.
peace.
Jao sabẖ meh ėk kẖuḏāė kahaṯ hao ṯao kio murgī mārai. ||1||
You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens? ||1||
Siri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaaj (Ang 1350)
Eating meat effects a persons kamai
which means they’re further away from Vaheguru
which defeats the purpose of them being alive
munumukh vishurree dhoor mehul n paaeae bal gee bal raam jeeo
The self-willed manmukh is separated, far away from God; she does not obtain the Mansion of His Presence, and she burns.
Siri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaaj (Ang 773)
yes ‘The Rock’ your right, i guess my post can condone meat eating WHICH I DONT FOR YOU KFC LOVING MOTHER****. but yo im just going along with what Sant baba Gurbachan Singh Ji wrote in his unedited version of pivitar jeevan. where it seems like Sant ji came to a point where the argument of maas was retarded to him, and think about it bro, who ever will eat it is gonna and ruin their own jeevan. but sant ji wrote yo eating meat is nad for you stay away from it you dont need it, but if your gonna eat maas make sure its jhatka and i wont talk smack, but if you dont and keep ingesting maas then your effed up.
atleast thats my summary of it, i guess that was his way of not going against hazoor sahib maryada, and dispite all the weird stuff that comes outta hazoor sahib, i still gotta give them upmost respect cuz theyve been put on that pedestal.
firstly, ranjit sio is a friend of mine. secondly, this video was taken by me. thirdly, this is not from hazur sahib, but rather at Baba Bakala, on the mela of Rakharpunia. It was around Auguest 28th when I was in India. These Nihung Singhs that did the langar seva were from Rakha, a pind just outside Ludhiana, under the leadership of Baba Joginder Singh Ji. The mahaprashaad was served the sangat, and we enjoyed it with the whole sangat, be it Nihung or non Nihung Sikh brothers.
Akaaaaaaaaaaaaluh.. why dont these “internet warriors” go there and talk to the Singhs? uthay Jadoo Akkaldan Chitran day bajda..fer darday aa..
I’m in agreement with Ranjit Sion. I will forever say that Jhatka is not part of Sikhi and I don’t think that meat should be served as langar. That being said, if Nihangs want to practice that, then so be it.
As far as the whole “thay Jadoo Akkaldan Chitran day bajda..fer darday aa” comment. Come on Singh. Be real. I’ve talked to Nihangs and they’re not how you describe. It’s possible to disagree with someone and still have love. Don’t forget, you’re an internet warrior yourself. Don’t be makin comments like you did and accuse other people of being “internet warriors”. It’s very hypocritical…and a bit funny..
*These Nihung Singhs that did the langar seva were from RAKHBA, a pind just outside Ludhiana
sorry
dont u stupid people this internet retard shinda singh (who is the furthest thing from being a man, yet thinks he has some duty to inform you of whats going on with youtube videos), is actually making money of you fools with adverts…and is the reason why he posts outrageous stuff…
shinda is nobody, and will always be a nobody, but gets his kicks off his webiste…
yo daddy man… Shinda didnt post this vid..and he aint making any money.. how can you comment on a person without even knowing him? Grow up
http://mistakesingh.blogspot.com/2007/10/chattar-sion-jeevan-sion-mini-justice.html
Amritsar, October 5
In a bizarre incident, agitated activists of the Guru Granth Sahib Satkar Committee picked up two brothers from the shop of famous publishers Jeewan Singh Chattar Singh and Sons, near Golden Temple, and blackened their faces in full public view. They later dragged them to a room of the Akal Takht secretariat here this evening.
With Maharaji’s kirpa Dasan Dass got a Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib ji’s (Guru here used for Dasam Patshah and his Bani for respect..so dont start a new controversy) Saroop published by Chattar Singh and Jeevan Singh; it has sooooo many mistakes.. We should take notice of that too
random nihang, this man has a blog, and makes money from advertisers. look to your right, and to the bottom. the more hits he has on his website, the more money he makes.
the man claims to be a taksali, and a sikh, and person who does commentary on sikhi. yet, he will post a video like that on this blog, knowing it will incite convtroversy and spark debate – and bring more people back to post comments or see the video. the whole time putting a little bit more pocket change then he had before.
the man has no creditbility, and no respect in the community other then with little kids who read this blog. the guy is 23 years old, and this blog is the only thing giving him a name, wheras otherwise he is a nobody and will always be a nobody.
he should do pandyan di seva or clean joray, or do paath…
Singh, Shinda is one of my good mates. I know him personally. If you dont like his site why do you visit it,and put more change in Shinda’s pocket. Also, I asked Shinda to put this vid. Please quit doing nindeya.. actually..nevermind. do whatever you like..
Akaaaaaluh
Meats not good for you.
Whether you choose to eat it is up to you.
Why do you care so much I ask?
I think this is funny and the video was pretty cool.
As far as the whole Shinda’s making money off us posting and what not, more power to him. The world is a business, so deal with it lol.
And your all pretty funny. I’m just happy something has been posted up on the site after such a long boring wait, the video was refreshing.
When your bored you can always go through the stupid list of things and find out what’s going on youtube or you wait patiently and see what shinda’s got for us to watch lol.
now I’m bored…thank you come again…
ur such a fag.. why would u post a thing like that
these guys are idiots …. and they will pay when dharam raja cuts their throats like that too … then we’ll see who’s laughing
Good on you shinda for posting that video. Its a clear sign of how messed up sikhi has become.
those nihungs who kill animals for no legitimate reason will have to bear the consequences of their actions, and bear the karmic repercussions.
This video made me sikh! Shame on those Nihungs!
Govind
So why don’t you all do something, if it is bothering your so much.
If you believe that they’ll get what’s coming to them later on, then why complain about it and in many cases whine about it.
Just let it be and watch wat happens to them during their judgement. ( You can’t watch so enjoy the thought )
Argue more!
everyone here take your kirpans off and put a guess purse on and continue arguging.
shinda why you scared to step to mans face but talk tough on the net….
only someone as egotistical and confused as shinda would post some garbage like this
not only is meating eating against sikhi, why believe in the atma if we superpose our authority as humans on the weak?
shinda is an idiot
how i just came across this whole issue i don’t know, but i’m bored sooo hmmmm
firstly i think anyone that is havin a fit over this video or even bummin it are jus all fukin crazy..
secondly, the reason y? coz u all hav contradicted sikhi in some way anyway, n thats jus on ur posts
on a mega deep level gurbani explains that this jagat is jus a tamasha, its all a drama.. and who is the actor i ask?? who do u think punk, god, the only one that exists… god is inside all of us and is playin his drama as he wishes it to be played out..
i’m not at all sayin we can all do wat eva the fuk we like, as ‘gods doin it’- we all know its abit more complicated than that..
but the above was just to make u all see the bigger picture, y all the arguin, hot heads, ego engrossed motha fukas up in here gettin all agitated ova a video.. nigga go get proactive if u think sumet is wrong instead of hidin behind a pc screen..
as for me,who givs a fuk wat i think, im insignificant and wont even bother to try and persuade u onto my level of thinkin, coz i dont giv a shit about u..homies im jus bored!
and as for all yall gettin all personal about shinda? that was jus fukin ridiculous, ur no betta than who u accuse of bein incompassionate,whers the love now mothafuka??
all keep contradictin uselfs..say what u want to me biatch, i neva claimed to b a gursikh, im lowa than all yall motherfuks so aint nothin gna hurt my pride..like i sed im js bored!
anyways thers a line in gurbani wher guru nanak dev ji says those that turn ther nose to those that eat meat devour men at night.. im not sayin maharaj condoned eatin meat..rather sayin all yall ppl, like above,who even get into heated debates about topics such as meat r all fools… cos no1 perfect and we all hav our demons, the second we forget god and get caught up in controversy we submit to our ego.. and if any of yall are amritdhari that ‘ego’ was meant to have been sacrified along with your sees(head)
im not sayin its easy, but jus remem ppl gonna do wat they wana do regardless of which mothafuka tells them not to… they myt pretend they changed infront of ur face, but no doubt, they be gettin up to the same antics behind closed doors or wateva
anyway its past 4am, bes do my nitnem and redeem myself of my foul language and evry otha sin i attend to durin the day.. cos its as easy as that eh…
akaaaaaloooo!!!!